As far as I am concerned, I think I will let nature take its course. What I need is a miracle, not surgery. So, why spend my hard-earned money on it?

Best wishes,
Jon

No question - if it irons out my creases when I’m older then sure I’d go get botoxed. Why not? Mkes for a more pleasing aesthetic - get with the times folks.

i think i would prefer to grow old gracefully. I don’t know if this opinion will change with time, but I hope it does not. There is nothing wrong about ageing! We just have to take care of our health and try to maintain our beauty naturally, through exercises, healthy diets. there are so many alternative methods to stay young!

take care

Nope. I plan to get old - but the heck with that gracefully nonsense. I’ve quit smoking, I’m exercising and I’m keeping my rock n’ roll attitude. When I hit 60, I plan to look 60 - a slim, trim, active and strong 60! Who needs botox for that?

Let’s leave vanity and bodily manipulation to Jim - with his hair dye, manicures, pedicures and rectal hose pipe antics I’m sure he wouldn’t need much persuading to jump on the Botox train, just put a flower on the front of the bottle and away you go.
I bet you’ve got the story and excuse lined up already.

Gary,
Can you think of any other uses for botox - an extremely effective muscle relaxant. I’ll bet you can mate.

I’ve been watching this blog from afar during the last couple of say it as it is weeks but this is too good not to ‘get amongst it’ as admin say.

Botox, tuck, nip, shave, pluck, lipo and gastro - if i helps YOU feel good then do it.

No question. I feel better for Botox.

Nope never will have cosmetic surgery…with one exception and that is if I was burn or scared to the extreme then I would consider it but just to stop nature I think not….
It is a shame these days that girls as young as 14 yrs are having breast implaints and other things…. 22 years olds getting face lifts or botox and even worse are the doctors performing the operations on them.
It is a sad state of affairs when people think there is a need to recreate themselves to appeal to others in this way….
It shows a very superficial society in which we live…
Long Live the wrinkle!

Good God that’s a disturbing image! No, unless I’m seriously injured and need to be fixed, I will not play around with my body’s blue prints. Too risky, too expensive, too vain! And I live in Southern California, the fake boob and butt mecca of the U.S.! I see lots of odd creatures out here with very taught, tanned faces and wrinkly hands that reveal the owner’s true age. Always look at the hands, people.

yeah i see that often too. the hands are always a sign! and they seem to be more wrinkled than usual. that’s weird. maybe it’s just the comparison between the youth of the face and the age of the hands.

no thanks, never will go under the knife in the name of beauty!

You’re all missing out - get on and improve the way you look, life is tooo short.

Good Lord, that’s just horrible.

I think I’m satisfied with the natural me. I’m not against surgeries to enhance physical beauty but given the chance, I don’t think I’ll take it. Hope the come up with a form of surgery to improve the inner beauty… wishful thinking.

Cheers and congratulations for your interesting blog. Kudos.

Apparently all wrinkle damage is done to the face by the time your 30 and after that you are fire fighting really. Obviously I’m alright having another 10 years to go but for a lot of people on here, its waaaaaay too late.

Its difficult for me to comment really having a face like porcelain but if my vaneer did start to crack and I wanted to maintain my Gisele Bundchen looks, I reckon I would give it a go, why does your forehead need to move anyway?

Joan Rivers is looking good isn’t she?

Ermmm I guess I have to say no to this one. I’m not going to fight the nature just to be beautiful. After all beauty is more than just good looks.

Think I’d have to pass. Spending the money wouldn’t bother me that much but I’m a complete wuss when it comes to pain.

I’m not sure about Botox - something chilling about injecting poison into oneself - but the odd lift and tuck? If I lose the weight I need to first, I might have to! (All that flabby flesh? Yuk!)

Botox is nature! Al natural ingredients.

I would definitely go for botox and train my face not to crease in the wrong places - then you don’t need a face lift.

Did the needles hurt Sarah, because I am seriously considering it for my 40th! What else would you want as a birthday present!!!

MMM… well this is not that hard…

I think I wouldn’t do anything of that… I better spend that money on a trip…
How much is a lifting anyway??

But who knows… perhaps I will… of course if it is not to expensive

Thanks for bringing up this important topic.

The problem is that you don’t get to hear about the horror stories of cosmetic surgeries and non-surgical procedures going wrong. Something that people need to be aware of if they’re considering going down this avenue.

I hope this is okay, but I wanted to mention that I have a section on my blog called ‘Extreme Makeovers’ that might be worth a read especially if you’re considering surgery. It’s not hype just factual accounts.

Great topic!

Nope, I wouldn’t do Botox. Ever. BUT, having said that, I think if I had the money I might have a few little things done that are really starting to bother me, such as drooping eyelids and things like that. I used to say I would never, ever have anything like that done, but of course that was back when I was young(er). LOL!

Hmmmmmmmmm

Personally I don’t need it. I often get people coming up to me in the street asking who my surgeon is when I tell them this is my natural look they just give me a look that says ‘yeah gary you are the best’.

I think women should get breast implants though as a matter of course. In fact if one of my harem was letting herself go a little I’d take her down Harley St and get her fixed up. Or she’d be binbagged end of.

I am considering a cock reduction however.

I’m with you on the cock reduction Gary. I’ve kepy hens, rabbits and cocks over the years and keeping too many of them has its issues.

Oh and naturally beautiful - like the site but don’t knock the healthy glow that cosmetic surgery can give you.

Go botox go.

No. I want to age with dignity.

All interesting comments….too bad ages weren’t included! I always said “no way”, then hit 40 and gravity set in! I have had Botox - nothing drastic - just a plumping out of a few wrinkles - no one knew - they just thought I was “really looking healthy”! Grow old - gracefully yes - but why not prolong the nasty pranks that nature plays on us? For those of us who do all we can to maintain our shape and appearance, the fact is genetics plays a big part in how we end up looking in spite of how well we “maintain”…..So I’m all for whatever anyone wants to do to maintain or enhance their appearance…..long live Botox!!!!

Sure Sarah, I guess if you like the promise of looking like you’ve suffered a stroke down the road, then sure, knock yourself out. You could be right in there with the other oddities like Michael Jackson and the plastic Barbies and Ken of the world. LOL

Seriously we need these fantastic treatments otherwise what on earth would I blog about? ;-0

Fartmachine, you want to age with dignity with a name like Fartmachine, good luck.

Sure guys, I guess if you like the promise of looking like you’ve suffered a stroke down the road, then sure, knock yourself out. Oh and yes you will, prolonged paralysis will do that to you. You could be right in there with the other oddities like Michael Jackson and the plastic Barbies and Ken of the world. LOL

Seriously we need these fantastic treatments otherwise what on earth would I blog about? ;-0

FYI I’m 42 and only use natural ingredients on my skin and whilst genetics may play a part, if you looked after your skin from a young age, you’d have beautiful skin today.

Respect the skin you’re in and you’ll be rewarded with glowing beautiful skin.

oops duplicate content, sorry.

Well, I do have moments when I think I’d like to, but in the end I wouldn’t. When people still ask me if my oldest daughter and I are sisters, I guess there’s not really a need.

But Anne isn’t that because you had her when you were 13?

Doesn’t everything that is good for you/makes you feel good, come with risks Naturallybeautiful? If everybody decided not to do something because of the risks what do you think we would be as a human race? Looking like direct descendants of Pat Butcher, thats what.

Dont get too personal Gary, you’ll frighten Anne and others off it its too personal. Am I right, Anne?

You still havent addressed the question bar trying to destroy it.

Come along now.

Twas merely a joke. And I thinbk Anne can take a joke.

As for would i have Botox?

No. I am a man. Surgery and men don’t mix.

Wow! I’m…well I appreciate your reply, Gary, thanks.

Of course it is a joke and who am I to do Admins job and serve and protect.

You contribution to this blog makes it what it is and now I feel guilty for pulling you up on this (I know whats coming now)

Anyway, surgery, does it for me but men can lose wrinkles too, right?

Gary, you are such a smoothie.

I’m with Gary, guys should leave well alone & sarah surely you knew Gary was joking. Its called HUMOR.

Ok

Sarah- don’t feel guilty now. Feel guilty when the authorities break into my flat to find my cold lifeless body swinging limply from the landing. You did this Sarah.

Libby- I learnt all I know from Bobby Davro. Get em laughing women are powerless. Or is it give them Rohypnol? I forget. Its one though.

Fab- mwah mwah sweetie. Ta for the support. Keep this up and I may even start a month long ‘civility’ session.

Risk implies chance Libby and with Botox it is a certainty that it will have long term deleterious effects.

You cannot paralyse muscles repeatedly and not expect to suffer the consequences of such a procedure.

I agree with naturally beut.

Look what happened to Stephen Hawking.

not having a go natbeautiful but where are the studies that prove this?

Botox has not been around long enough in regular use for anyone to have drawn such a conclusion. I’m not saying its not correct I’m just saying its theory over fact.

And what are ‘the consequences’ you wuld suffer exactly? I didn’t realist the forehead had ‘muscles’……

But chance doesn’t mean certainty, it means that it might happen, there is a chance of, a possibility. If there is a chance of Sweetcheeks winning in the 2.30 at Haydock, it doesnt mean its definitely going to win.

In all fairness Hawkins was drug related.

That and his missus used to paste him.

I have a vision of her laying into him and him robotically going ‘ow that hurts’ ‘not the face not the face’

Is that a before and after picture you’ve posted there. They look the same!

I would love to have some nip/tuck but sure can’t afford it. I think I would be a bit afraid of it too. Right now I’ll stick to my anti-wrinkle cream and hope for a miracle. ha!

The only injection i agree with is an index finger during the vingar strokes

Oh yes, I would definitely consider cosmetic procedures. Not a ton, but little touch ups here and there I think are fine. I’m 36 and want Botox so bad! If I can scrape up the money and find a good local doctor I’m going to do it!

Sorry, work called.

Run across a busy motorway and there’s a CHANCE, an excellent chance you’ll be hit by a moving vehicle. It’s a high risk, not definite but probable.

I think it would be prudent to ask yourself some questions and compare Botox to other medical treatments in history that were allegedly “safe”. To illustrate an example of this, you need look no further than silicone breast implants. Time bombs waiting to go off. There have been numerous disastrous cases as well as deaths from these implants.

Apart from reports of botched procedures with Botox, doctor’s failing to take a medical history and the “lunch-time quick fix”. How can any kind of quick fix be an appropriate medical procedure? Continued treatments can cause atrophy or thinning of the muscles. Why would you play Russian Roulette with your health?

A leading Neurophysiologist, Dr. Peter Misra, has cautioned that the long-term effects of the miracle anti-wrinkle treatment on the brain, nervous system and muscles are as yet unknown. In the British Medical Journal he states, Robust evidence for the action of botulinium toxin (Botox) on sensory neurons is lacking.

Read his editorial…The changed image of botulinum toxin
Its unlicensed use is increasing dramatically, ahead of robust evidence

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/325/7374/1188

There will always be arguments for and against but bear in mind the people that promote this stand to make significant financial gains from its acceptance.

Yes, Libby you’re right. It’s hard living a life when your “real” name is Fartmachine.

I can imagine, seriously, my heart goes out to you. At first I thought you were having a bit of a laugh but now I understand the obvious pain. You must have made your mum pass wind a lot when she was pregnant. Its a good job you didn’t make your dad masterbate a lot.

I think its a duty of butt ugly people to stop offending the rest of us. So anything goes, surgery, botox, masks, whatever.
The best thing a butt ugly woman can do is get massive breast implants and wear a skimpy top, that way no man would be looking at your face anyway - one off cost, cure for life, come on ladies get a good set of crowd pleasers you know it makes sense.

Regarding this keep it natural, why would any man want a woman that smells like a compost heap or random vegetable matter?

I feel a debate, as admin say, between Gary & naturally beautiful…

Naturally beaut- there are no forehead muscles as Gary says, right? You dont answer his question - nice site you have all the same.

I didn’t answer it but it was ridiculous, no offense. There are several muscles in your forehead. Botox is injected into muscle not skin.

No more ridiculous than your assertation that surgery is the work of the devil. The only muscles in the forehead are those that raise the eyebrows in simple terms. Its hardly a hotbed of lean tissue is it?

I take it you have a commercial interest in promoting natural products.

Are any of them based on science or just unrpoven wooly hippy theory?

Do you think accident victims should be allowed surgery? Or should they remian disfigured? Who decides the morality of plastic surgery?

Is it anymore dangerous than smoking? Or drinking?

I’ve had a look at your site now and can I ask you a question. What constraints or regulatory body legislates how you test your products on humans? How are they chosen? Are they insured? Straight question.

As you yourself say

There will always be arguments for and against but bear in mind the people that promote this stand to make significant financial gains from its acceptance.

This could apply 100% to your site. Correct?

Why is something ‘better’ if its natural? I am genuinely interested in your opinion here.

You wrote “No more ridiculous than your assertation that surgery is the work of the devil.” Have I really stated that Gary?

The point, as you are intent on making one, is that there are three muscles in the forehead. Your earlier remark that the forehead contained no muscles was silly in light of the topic on Botox. Nevermind. I hope this brings that side of the discussion to a close and was not intended as a personal attack.

With a background in chemical engineering and eight years spent in R & D before any products were released to the market, the research was most certainly science based. I base my opinions on research Gary, not on financial gain.

As you seem to have gone off the rails, I won’t even bother with a rebuttle. The topic on Botox was based on body image not accident victims.

I am governed by EU regulations and all tests are carried out in clinical trials. I am insured which covers anyone who in the unlikely event should suffer a reaction.

You wrote “Why is something ‘better’ if its natural?” Let me ask you this question Gary, how is absorbing toxic substances through products that you may use on a daily basis, and based on that use, could be the equivalent to absorbing a bucket load of poison over the coarse of a year, better?

Not saying it is.

But you have avoided the question.

Why is something better if its natural?

And glad to see your not in it for financial gain. Can I have some free products please?

I’m not to sure about the Botox thing as it seems rather dangerous to me, but Having suffered years of torment about the extreme smallness of my penis, I am definitely considering getting this penis enhancement treatment from the world famous Doctor and sexual healer to the stars Dr Mohendras X Bamboo.
http://drbamboos.blogspot.com/2007/05/improve-size-of-your-manhood.html

It seems we are separated by a common language Gary. I clearly said that I base my OPINIONS on research not financial gain.

I haven’t avoided the question, the answer lies in the last passage.

Certainly you can sample my products at no cost, as long as you cover shipping.

“Its a good job you didn’t make your dad masterbate a lot.” That makes no sense. Go to bed my child. And you obviously don’t know what a fart machine is anyway. There’s no gas coming out of it,only noise. So no, my mom did not pass wind a lot when she was pregnant. But your a funny little fellow, keep it up!

its a deal natural person

and I shall report back- so if they do the job then you will no doubt get orders from it.

having said that I look ace anyway so people will probably buy them if I say so anyway.

Definitely not for me. I don’t think it would make me a better person or make me feel better about myself either…

If it’s for you, go for it!

Well handled fart machine.

Gary, is this for real - you’re going to try goods for naturally beaut FOR FREE - where is the catch?

we’ll see if its real.

I’ll try them. why not?

Gary,

You will need to contact me through my website and provide me with your email address and physical address.

Website : http://www.elixir-body-care.com

Lucky for me that you look so ‘hot’, it will make my job all that easier.

Okay, that’s it from me, signing out from this forum. If anyone else wishes to contact me they can do so through my blog or website.

Best wishes.

Fartmachine, I’m sorry, just jealous of the cyber name and wish I could come up with something equally as witty, its just something I’m going to have to work on.

Ooh, I missed this! LOL Gary, I’m 39 next month. I had my first child when I was 21. I think it’s hysterical!