Detox Diaries Day 1 - Pre colonic irrigation

May 6th, 2008 by Jim

Sawadee Krup (Jim) Sawaddee Ka (Emma) as GO! Smell the flowers start our detox diaries from the Spa Koh Chang Resort, Thailand. We’ve decided to stick our necks out and share the ups, downs and insides of our Thai ‘ clean-me-out’ Spa experience designed to rejuvenate and lead us on the path towards a healthier and happier life.

Good eh - or is it? Some would argue this is totally unnecessary.

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We’ve decided yet again to give our bodies a chance to heal as it is believed they work at their full potential after 24-36 hours without the intake of food as our healing mechanisms works best when we stop eating, ingesting, digesting and metabolising food. Hmmmmm, F-O-O-D - Homer Simpson drool - GO! Homer:

On the flight from Dubai to Bangkok we chose to pass on the ‘we’re entitled to it so we’ll have some’ alcohol, bread, coffee, meat and peanuts. Same for the hop over to Trat, the skip on a boat to Koh Chang and all that remains is the jump but will we have the energy as we start our Pre-cleanse diet.

A bonus start to our trips as we’ve a letter featured today in the Dubai ‘paper of the people’ (lift right clenched fist above your hand) 7 days. We addressed an article on ‘ How has the internet changed your life?’ and this community blog is a case in point. Read it here!

So, welcome to the garden to all new readers and feel free to post a comment in any of the articles below and get amongst it and share your knowledge, experiences and opinions with other as we literally dig deep and share our detox diaries with the world before, during and after our 9 night / 10 day stay.

Group hug anyone? Now where did we put that hose?

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Comment by Nur Sarah Lam
2008-05-06 12:46:41

Hm..I have a sudden crave of going to Thailand.. Anyway, I shall be coming here often to check on the latest..

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Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-06 12:53:53

‘ our healing mechanisms works best when we stop eating, ingesting, digesting and metabolising food. ‘

says who?

thats nonsense

your body requires nutrients to heal. starvation does not help ‘healing mechanisms’ it does however make the body more open to fatigue, infection and injury.

Comment by Bo Snr
2008-05-06 14:46:03

Hello UP,
I obtain my nutriants fron an Irish folk medicine known as Guinness.
Some people got it from Stella until it was changed to some foreign brew that Bo goes tp Prague for

Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-06 15:49:28

Very good Bo Snr!!!!

The budvar drinker ended up in Liverpool saturday night after all!!

ahem

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Comment by Dubai Guy Subscribed to comments via email
2008-05-07 06:37:02

I fully agree with the statement, “our healing mechanisms works best when we stop eating, ingesting, digesting and metabolising food”

Just ask any muslim person about their opinion regarding the fasting month of Ramadan & they would tell you how it not only helps them become better spiritually but it also does help them improve their physical side.

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Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 12:19:25

so if its that beneficial why not do it all the time?

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Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-05-07 15:08:52

How can not eating and drinking during hot days then stuffing your face at sundown and just before sunrise be beneficial?

It’s obscene wandering round the supermarkets in the UAE seeing the laden shopping trolleys hardly better spiritually. Notice all the new shopping malls being built - the opening dates are always rushed so that they coincide with Ramadan - why? because the malls do more business during that month than any other.

And as for improving the physical side - tell that to the labourers dropping off scaffolding or to the people that cause accidents running across roads driving their cars like maniacs just before Iftar

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Comment by brian and sami
2008-05-06 13:28:29

Emma, if that’s a picture of the pre-colonic you (after the first para of diaries day one), it obviously is time for the next detox! Seriously guys, hope everything comes out all right…………………….Good luck and enjoy yourselves. We were on Koh Chang in January - lovely island. Brian and Sami

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-06 17:47:52

I look slightly different now though - I have blonde hair!!!

 
 
Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-05-06 15:18:13

‘designed to rejuvenate and lead us on the path towards a healthier and happier life’ - i’d get a copy of the professional qualifications of the people who designer the ‘program’ - but of course they don’t have any

Check their frequently asked questions and some of the nonsense they claim

”First an IMPORTANT NOTE!!!
Before beginning one of our programs, please be advised that your health is your own responsibility!

We here at ‘The SPA Koh Chang Resort’ DO NOT PROFESS to be MEDICAL AUTHORITIES or ADVISORS. Should YOU have any DOUBTS about your HEALTH, MEDICATIONS or ANY PRE-EXISTING CONDITION, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR MEDICAL PRACTITIONER FIRST!”

The Seven Day “Clean-me-out” Program

Toxemia (systemic poisoning) is perhaps the most pervasive condition that plagues modern civilization. Never before in history has mankind been exposed to such an array of toxins present in food, air, water and electromagnetic pollution.The physical effects such toxins have are evidenced in the rampant and growing number of degenerative and autoimmune diseases. The incidence of ill-health, disease and the number of individuals suffering from allergies has reached an all time high.We have observed this dramatic decline in health over the last 50+ years.

Our experience has demonstrated that vibrant health can be regained through fasting, colon cleansing, and monitoring of the diet.The best results are achieved when following Seven Day “Clean-me-out” Cleansing Program. The products we use integrate Nature’s requirements for healing a clean and properly nourished bloodstream. We know you will experience tremendous results on this program. It will assist in achieving a thorough cleansing of the bloodstream, which is imperative if true, vibrant health is to be achieved.
Why Seven Days?

Fasting allows the body to concentrate its resources on thorough healing. For seven days you eat no solid food. This may sound severe, but you will be consuming cleansing and nourishing products that help detoxify and supplement the body. Make no mistake - this is not an herb based program which can dehydrate and have an over-stimulating effect on the body.

These products may be used regularly, on a daily basis as well as on the Seven Day Cleansing Program. Thankfully it takes only a small fraction of the time to regain your health than it did to destroy it. Thanks to the rule of 7 (seven). Nature operates under the Rule of Seven. She uses units of Seven in many ways: Take note: The moon completes the cycle in 28 days from Full Moon to Full Moon. A woman’s menstrual cycle is 28 days.

A baby’s gestation period is 280 days (approximately 9 months) Chicken eggs hatch in 21 days. Most ducks hatch in 35 days. So, also with the human body: It takes 7 days to Cleanse the Bloodstream. It takes 7 weeks to Cleanse the Lymph glands. It takes 7 months to Cleanse the Glandular system. It takes 7 years to change all the molecules of the body.

With the above in mind, by doing the Cleansing Program with Natural Products and the Colema Board, it takes 7 days to clean the blood stream and the colon. Then if the individual repeats the Cleansing Program they will begin the recuperation with excellent results within the first 7 weeks and get their best results in 7 months. By that time you should have built up your vitality back to a very desirable state. But, if you have changed your eating habits by eliminating all sugars, corn syrup, glucose, fructose (except maple syrup, honey and molasses, sparingly) and are consuming a minimum of 60% RAW food, then, you will have a positive long term reaction.

‘’People with health problems should work with a qualified practitioner while cleansing. Diabetes, multiple sclerosis and lung conditions are serious conditions. WE ARE NOT DOCTORS HERE - if one is in doubt PLEASE consult your medical authority before starting any Cleanse Program!’’

If it’s rejuvenation you’re looking for I can tell you a week in a 5* hotel on a beach in Thailand surrounded by smiling staff waiting hand an foot on you will do the trick without fasting or sticking a tube up your arse - fashion followers/more money than sense/lost it come to mind

2008-05-06 16:39:21

Yanno, I didn’t expect to say this straight out of the gate — but I gotta agree with Angry, and in some ways, even our luv Urban.
I’m a wee bit worried ’bout y’all.
I went to the website, read about your upcoming (no pun intended) adventure and *winced*.
To each his own, I say — but, yeah. If you needed a vacation for your mind, heart and spirit, I would have brought my own moist towelettes (anti biotic), several outstanding trashy novels and one literary great, lot’s of bottled water and plenty of tip money for the cabana staff while getting a daily massage, dancing till dawn, and sleeping on a bed fit for a king until noon.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

::sigh::

But hey, it’s your bum on the line. ;) Good luck with that!

 
 
Comment by aussiecynic
2008-05-06 17:10:50

I must say I do admire your conviction in this.. and if you feel better for it go for it…
just so long as you know what the pros and cons are…
Personnally I am interesting in what goes on… but am also rather concerned..
My detox program consists of the following:
get up at 11am
Cuppa Coffee
Smoke
Blog
coffee
Smoke
more blog coffee and smokes…
lunch I dont eat lunch or Breakfast… very rare for me
then house work (exercise for an hour or so)
more coffee
smokes
blog
coffee smokes
then dinner I eat dinner but not much either..
I have stopped eating white bread and have a wholemeal instead….
My detox consists of cutting back on coffee and smokes.. a dietician once told me I eat in fortnight what most eat in 3 days …. so no hassles with extra food build up there…
So there youhave it…… Aussies Detox program…

Must admit I havent looked at black coffee quite the same since you guys left…. shudder ;)

Comment by Blue Collar Goddess Subscribed to comments via email
2008-05-06 18:44:08

… and the idea of garlic; which was once a darling favorite scent of mine has forever been abandoned.

I looked at my coffee this morning whilst reading the detox diary and went to boil water for tea. Good Earth spicy yummy stuff. Then I promptly smoked half a pack and tried to think of all my friends who are health freaks and decided “freak” was a good word. And THAT is too much like calling the kettle black. ::grins::
Yes. I are a bit freaky.

Why is it that all my vegan and veggieholic friends are always ill? They seem to moan and groan more than the average person.
Is it because they are simply more aware of what is going on with their bodies or …???

I want to go to Tasmania now — simply because I have a smoking buddy. No one I know smokes anymore! GAH!

Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-06 18:54:04

I smoke

am thinking about quitting though

but only thinking about it!!

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Comment by aussiecynic
2008-05-07 07:28:04

I have been thinking about Quitting loads to UP…
I must say I do feel much better my health has improved the more I think about quitting…
Mind over matter…
;)

 
 
Comment by aussiecynic
2008-05-07 07:26:26

GArlic and Ginger in most things …. and my kids never get sick….
If we get crook we get very crook…. we seem to miss all the coughs.colds and normal sort of stuff peole pick up…..
but a healthy immune system is what we have.. and thats from the good healthy diet we have….
I only eat when I am hungry… and thats at dinner time…

Come on Down to Tassie… we can smoke all day while sipping Brandy, Lime and Sodas…. hehehehe… in front of the heaters….

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Comment by Dubai Guy Subscribed to comments via email
2008-05-07 06:38:21

wow, an impressive detox program :-D
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Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 11:07:16

LOL AC :-)

 
 
Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-06 17:54:38

i LOVE THIS MYSTICAL NONSENSE

Thanks to the rule of 7 (seven). Nature operates under the Rule of Seven. WHAT? 24 HOURS IN A DAY EITHER 28.30.31 DAYS IN A MONTH- SEE AL THE SEVENS LINING UP!!!

She uses units of Seven in many ways: Take note: The moon completes the cycle in 28 days from Full Moon to Full Moon. A woman’s menstrual cycle is 28 days. WHATS YOUR POINT CALLER

A baby’s gestation period is 280 days (approximately 9 months) RELEVANCE? AND NOT EVEN CORRECT. HOW MANY BABIES TURN UP ON TIME? THEY DON’T SO NATURE MUST BE LYING.

Chicken eggs hatch in 21 days. RELEVANCE TO HUMANS

Most ducks hatch in 35 days. I LOVE THE ‘MOST’ BIT HERE

So, also with the human body: It takes 7 days to Cleanse the Bloodstream. NONSENSE

It takes 7 weeks to Cleanse the Lymph glands. NONSENSE

It takes 7 months to Cleanse the Glandular system. NONSENSE

It takes 7 years to change all the molecules of the body. AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA. THIS IS GREAT

With the above in mind, by doing the Cleansing Program with Natural Products and the Colema Board, it takes 7 days to clean the blood stream and the colon. Then if the individual repeats the Cleansing Program they will begin the recuperation with excellent results within the first 7 weeks and get their best results in 7 months. SO SOMETIMES 7 DAYS MATTER OTHER TIMES 7 WEEKS OTHER TIMES 7 MONTHS- ITS SHRINK TO FIT PSUEDO SCIENCE

By that time you should have built up your vitality back to a very desirable state. YUP LETS KEEP AWAY FROM ANY ACTUAL DATA RELATED RESULTS EH?

But, if you have changed your eating habits by eliminating all sugars, corn syrup, glucose, fructose (except maple syrup, honey and molasses, sparingly) and are consuming a minimum of 60% RAW food, then, you will have a positive long term reaction.

SO BASICALLY EAT A HEALTHIER DIET FOR 7 MONTHS AND YOU MIGHT BE HEALTHIER. WELL IN SHERLOCK HOLMES. NO FRUCTOSE? SO NO FRUIT AT ALL THEN? WHY 60% RAw FOOD- WHY NOT 58% WHY NOT 73%- ERM BECAUSE ITS ALL MADE UP

LOVE THE CAVEAT ABOUT ‘WE ARE NOT DOCTORS’- ITS TO STOP THEM GETTING SUED AND SHUT WHEN THERE MUMBO JUMBO IS PROVED TO BE MEDICALLY UNSOUND.

HAHAHAHAHA

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-05-06 18:04:36

Lets wait and see how things go UP…
I am interested in seeing how these programs work matey…
and a blow by blow diary might be interesting to watch…
we as observers will get to witness first hand through their written word just how things are moving along (no pun inteneded)
These programs do worry me… but if Jim and Emma find some forn of benefit then let us see how it goes….
I would prefer the motel mentioned above.. but am curious…

 
Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 16:42:07

Well we’ll see after the fast…

Jim here and in addition to my blood test pre detox I weighed 90kg (198 pounds) with resting pulse 63 with blood pressure 135 over 88.

Time’ll tell.

 
 
Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-06 18:13:55

the way to have done it would have been to have had full bloodwork done before, directly after and say 8 weeks after and see how much of a difference it had

as it is while worthwhile it may be for us to read if you’d paid to do this you’d hardly write- its a load of rot would you? its emperors new clothes and placebo coupled with starvation and relaxation

expect

intital weight loss
euphoria due to dehydration and temperature

better skin due to the sun etc etc

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 11:19:39

Hi Urban,

BLOODWORK you say…

Jim here with the results of my pre-cleanse blood test I had in Dubai (I’m not the best with needles but hey-ho) with a couple of testtubes worth…shhht…shhhtt :-)

Heres my pre cleanse blood:

BIOCHEMISTRY

Random blood glucose - 5.12 mnol/L

ENDOCRINOLOGY

Testosterone - 8.88 ng/ml (typical male range 3.0-10.6)

LIPID PROFILE

Cholesterol - 6.01 mnol / L ( Reference Range = 3.6 - 5.2)
HDL Cholesterol - 1.75 mnol / L (Reference Range = 0.90 - 1.80)
LDL Cholesterol - 3.48 mnol / L (Reference Range = 1.5-3.8)
Triglycerides - 0.79 mnol / L (Reference Range = 0.46 - 7.0

THYROID FUNCTION

Free T4 - 11.40 (Reference Range = 9.0 - 20.0)
T3 - 11.38 pmol/L (Reference Range = 0.95 - 2.50)
T4 - 70.13 nmol / L (Reference Range = 60.0 - 120)
TSH - 1.279 Ulu / ml Hyper <0.27 Hypo >4.7

I’m no doctor either but happy to give the same tests a go on my return - anything I should be looking for?

This is all new to me!

Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 12:22:28

fair play

I’m made up you’ve done tests prior. do them if you can upon return then say 6 weeks after.

well in.

at least now there is a bit of science involved which makes it far more interesting.

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Comment by Emma F
2008-05-07 15:50:54

Here is a site for you Dr Pagan

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/glucose/test.html

You can select other tests there too.

Not sure it’s an exact science though - for example - the glucose test is affected by the last time Jim ate.

Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 15:56:49

I am aware of the relevance of bloodwork emma

bottom line it can give a good indication albeit on a minute sample size of real health benefits.

Comment by Emma F
2008-05-07 16:11:31

You could do a comparison - you get your bloods done - then eat phall (or an alternative of your choice) for a week - as a control.

 
 
 
Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 16:43:15

CHEERS URBAN…

A big step for me and my anti needle / blood thing.

When should I get the re-test? Straight after or say 3 months down the line?

In addition to my blood test pre detox I weighed 90kg (198 pounds) with resting pulse 63 with blood pressure 135 over 88.

Time’ll tell.

Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 16:46:11

Our bp is exactly the same!!

and my weight is 2 lbs below you

how bizarre!

I will be undertaking a ’sports nutrition’ course for the summer- may even post up my stuff on here

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 16:51:25

That would be welcomed - we’ll be starting guest founder post soon and as long as its related to health, fun, inspiration travel - the more we can learn here the better….oh and the final category - food (Pizza please - thin crust sloppy gu’seppy from that pizza place with the blue n white boxes - seriously can’t remember as short term memory takes a hit here - that was HIT by the way - no chance of that tonight having just returned from my first 16 litre enema)

Too much info, I know!

 
Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 17:10:15

Pizza Express

always start with the dough balls

 
Comment by Lib
2008-05-07 17:17:40

Slightly ruined it for me when they started selling it in sainsburys

 
 
Comment by aussiecynic
2008-05-07 17:19:26

You guys are so unfit it is not good….
heres a little something for you both…

I weigh 81 kg….
yep
Blood pressure 120/70
and my cholestoral is hugely hugh at 8.3 last test… and I dont eat anything with cholesterol.. go figure…
The Dr reckons I am as a strong as horse… if only the legs would work properly….
Its all those smokes and Coffee…..
blood screening always good..
hehehehhehhe

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 17:35:19

Cool blood pressure AC…

They reckon 120 / 80 is about the right reading, right?

 
Comment by aussiecynic
2008-05-07 18:02:45

yep absolutely perfect…
Which they find a bit curious considering how high my cholesterol is…
had a whole heaps of test done, went to a dietician…
I dont enough for her wo I had to go on a special diet of low cholesterol food…
eating all this stuff I was told eat..
In 2 weeks I gained 4 kg my Cholesteral went up to 8.7 and my blood pressure went up to 140/90
so the Dr was not happy… I said I try it my way…. went back to my way of doing things eating when hungry etc…
and my BP went back to normal, cholesterol dropped back to 8.2 and weigt went back to 81kg… its funny though I weighed 82kg when in High school.. hehehehehe…
so I dont worry anymore…. must be a family trait…

 
 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-06 18:59:22

even better it works out at a bargain 5 times the average thai monthly wage for 10 days per person.

for virtually no food.

no wonder they smile sweetly eh!!

top scam- if anything hats off to them for fabricating this nonsense and fleecing people with it.

 
Comment by Lib
2008-05-06 22:46:04

All I know is that if it is going to shift stuff inside of you which is undigested/bad for you and it makes you feel better. Where’s the harm?

A mate recently had colonic and she felt a whole load better, I asked her whether she was going to go back and she said ‘definitely, they reckon I need at least 3 more sessions’

I bet they do at £60 a pop.

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 11:20:44

You can buy kits and self administer at home anyway - once you’ve got it ‘ cracked’ :-)

 
 
Comment by Nur Sarah Lam
2008-05-07 13:50:47

Garlic and ginger is my best friend, can’t live without them..simply loving it..

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Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 14:43:34

Has anyone tried a chilli enema

I believe it is called a phall?

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-07 16:44:45

Thats so unfair Urban,

I could murder a chicken chilly extra hot with Prawn Puri starter, oinion bhajis on the side mopped up with Garlic / Chilly / Peshwari Naan bread.

 
 
Comment by Urban Pagan
2008-05-07 16:47:21

apologies squire

at least you won’t be tempted out there with a green curry with bird eye chillies

or tom yum soup……….

Comment by Jim & Em
2008-05-08 04:37:20

We had Tom Yum soup when we landed in Bangkok…

Then a Papaya brekkie the next day.

Rock n roll.

 
 
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