Go! Tell me about lost love

March 31st, 2008 by Lib

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It has been said that you never really stop loving someone. You just learn to live without them.

True? Or is our capacity for love as equal as our capacity to forget?

And which controls which, the heart, or the brain.

Comments please……..

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Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 03:24:20

unfortunatly I am led more by my heart than my head….

however you can stop loving a person… truly you can…. when common sense kicks you up the butt, and you see them for who they really are this can be a rather sobbing thing…..
taking of those rose coloured glasses can be hard but very enlightening…..

Love is in every emotion… you can not hate if you do not love, you cant be angry with out it, sad, happy, mad, surprised… it doesnt matter what other emotion it is there is a component of love in there…
It is the strongest of all emotions and can lead to the greatest good and the greatest evil wars have been fought for it, lives taken over it… and the most incredible relationships made from it…..
but you can stop it, it can be hard… but it can end…..

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Comment by Elton John - Drama Queen
2008-03-31 04:21:26

Scuse me Lib, not interested in your lame post, but usin your space to speak to me mates.

Listen Flowers!

Bin away I av! Me birthday see! Still youz lot knows that ey? Like I woulds likes to thanks youz all for them right nice comments wot you wrote on TB’s post I would. Specially me Aunty Bridget an TB fer startin it all right.

All except you, Smalld!<kfromellesemereport.

Wot a time! Been in Vegas me an my David av, see I was doin some gigs like for a bit of extra cash an usin me birfday as an excuse! That Billnillary Clintons came they did. He’s lovely he is, an she’s a bloke in drag see.

Well that Monica Lewinsky came an all, an she was like showin us ow to smoke a cigar an that (like Smalld!<kfromellesmereport don’t know already…… he does you know, tried it on wiv David in Abu Dhabi he did, “NO!! SMALLD!<KFROMELLESMEREPORT!!! NO!!!!” my David says to im).

Still, what youz av to do is get one of them big cigars, an pucker up your lips, like wot Smalld!<kfrometc does, an just suck see! Lovely! Dip em in things an all you can.

Anyways right, there I was playin me Joanna when this bloke in the audience shouts up, “Wotcher Elton! Appy Birfday Mate!,”

“Fanks Darlin,” I sings back to the tune of Benny & The Jets. “Listen Elt, I’m, avin a bit of trouble wiv me central eatin system see. I’ve got a Lockheed 530 Premium Gas Injected System, an the pilot light keeps goin out. Wotchoo think I shoulds do bout it mate?”

Well that’s a right dilemma that is, see north of Vegas, where he cames from, is like Right Up North an all, an it gets proper cold there this time of year it does right.

Didn’t miss a beat I didn’t, every word was right in tune wiv the song an no-one else noticed I changed the words I don’t thinks;

Get a new Wipton Tap,
An fix it in the Spillade Gap,
Cement it in wiv EvoStik,
Make sure your pilot lamp is lit
An if you see Smalld!<kfromellesmereport slap im ard!
La la la la an the Jets an all………

“Cheers mate! If I see im, he’s dead meat he is.” He shouts back

See I likes that, youz av to look after your fans you do, an they do their bit for me right.

Love ya!

Elt XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 04:58:23

Oh Elton welcome Back…..
and Lib does love you just not your duets I bet ya…!

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Comment by Elton John - Drama Queen
2008-03-31 05:02:24

Thanks AC, gone right off er I av.

Never did like that other bloke either.

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Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 05:13:40

hehehehehe…
Now now Lib is great… she really is…
How about big Group Hugs….. Bo and Bo Snr might come along… and we can all join in….
dont be to harsh…. EJ its all good….

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Comment by Elton John - Drama Queen
2008-03-31 05:19:50

Hmmmph. Couple of ugly buggers, the pair of em.

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 08:17:24

Angry was not very nice to your Aunty too.. EJ… :p
she will tell you….

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Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 11:21:32

Thanks AC.

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 11:37:42

your welcome…

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Comment by Jim & Em
2008-03-31 20:29:54

Welcome back Elt!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-03-31 09:56:12

Captains Arms, The Meridian Hotel, Abu Dhabi Friday 4 april, 5-00pm…….bring your handbag, and your private healthcare insurance

Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 11:22:51

A post about love and you are organising a fight? lol.

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Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-03-31 13:18:04

No love lost here!

Comment by Fertile Fish
2008-03-31 14:35:34

Ha ha ha ha!!

Fantastic!!

One of them’s gonna get a right good bitch slappin…….

Just not sure which one!!

Comment by Fertile Fish
2008-03-31 14:37:22

Hang on!

No! I’ve had chance to think about it! My money’s on Elt to win in 3 rounds!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 11:21:07

You are used to hijacking people’s careers Elt, so go for it.

 
 
Comment by Funkygirl012003
2008-03-31 08:01:39

In love the heart always rules the head. In such that we can choose whether or not to act on our feelings, but that doesn’t mean we can stop ourselves from feeling them.

I think that it’s also very possible to fall out of love. People do every day. There may be a lingering sense of companionship or familiarity, but when you fall out of love, the strong connection just isn’t there anymore.

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Comment by earthlingorgeous
2008-03-31 10:07:49

A love that is lost is a love that is not meant for you… then go and find someone else or let that someone find you…

It’s better to love than never at all…

When loving someone and it’s the right kind of love the heart and the head will compliment each other they will agree and loving will not be so hard.

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Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 10:44:59

EJ, you are back :) Bridget has missed you.

Lib, I think the power to forget varies from one person to the next.

I know people who never move on, they go on pining for love lost in their heart for a long time.

Other people treat love as a game, they can play any version of it with any partner. Forgetting comes easy.

Then there are those like Bridget, who takes time (an awful lot sometimes!) to get over lost love, but once they are over, there is no going back. For us, stage one is where we learn to live without, while we still love (not by choice, just can’t help it at this stage ha!). Stage two is starting to be free of the memories and the pain. Stage 3 is when we’re done ‘mourning’, by that time, we don’t remember much about the lost one. We don’t live in the past once we’re over it. It’s over.

I think that we all have a soul mate. Does not mean everyone ends up marrying theirs. Does not even mean that we’ll recognise them when we meet them. Sometimes it takes time. Sometimes we never see them for who they are and we part ways. Also, we meet lots of wrong and almost-but-not-quite right people along the way. They serve a purpose - they give us temporary joys and happiness, and our vecu with them helps us get more attuned to who could be the right person for us.

One thing for sure, if it’s not meant to be, it won’t be. If it’s meant to be, one way or the other, one day or another, it will be..

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 11:10:38

Hubby is my soulmate….. I first saw him at school year 8 and told my friends I will marry that guy… I was 12…. hehehehehehe.. turnout he lived next to my best friend small world isnt it….

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Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-03-31 13:25:01

AC
You were a year too late - by 11 you should have been married and knocking out the first of 12 kids like a queen ant

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Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 14:00:49

hey you never the luck of the draw angry… perhaps in another life.. maybe…
Queen ants hey…. I do like ants….

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Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-03-31 17:49:25

Once your dead - that’s it

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-04-01 03:25:26

hey I beg to differ….
I have died once… and lived
and I can tell you there is more to it…. I have seen it…. matey….

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Comment by arvind
2008-03-31 12:49:21

Very sentimental as usual Bridget!

A lot of time, we remain in love as we “in love” with that image of that person and what they supposedly added to us and our life. But often in the cold of day once they are gone, you can revisit and see them warts and all. And then it is time to move on quickly.

Until we fall “in love” with the next person, invisible warts and all :-)

Being in love should feel great and is so good for us, as the other person brings out the best in US.

But so often we fall in love with the “wrong” person though out head would be telling us not to go there. We then suffer with a broken heart for a long time.

The phrase “my heart is not in it” is sometimes used to describe a relationship where the magic has gone but had we examined it with our head in the first place, then there would have been no heart-break.

So for me, it is great to go for the romance and to let hte heart rule (I am a pisces after all), but experience has taught me to let the head rule first :-)
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Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 13:03:11

What to do about the sentimental bit mate, a leopard doesn’t change its spots! 8)

A Pisces is ruled by his heart..?

Chook, you’re lucky to have found your soulmate in this small world ha! ;)

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Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 13:58:46

thanks chook… it took a bit of doing you know what they say if you love them let them and if they love they’ll come back… its true you know…

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Comment by nursarahlam
2008-03-31 11:39:09

My husband is my life..

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Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 14:10:33

Thanks for your insights guys, however, no one has really answered my question.

I know that you can get over someone if they were a pain in the arse or they were wrong for you or you fall out of love with them.

But do you ever stop loving someone just because they stopped loving you?

What happens if you see someone after a few years and you were in love with them and the feelings come back. Did they ever go away? Or does the heart/brain have a coping mechanism and it just buries the feelings away.

I’m not sure about soul mates, I’m not even sure about monogamy but I reckon that’s a seperate post.

Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 14:18:54

Yeh Lib…
I think it is the familiarity that gets you rather than love…. the sensations you felt at the begining of the relationship can come back… but I think if you can stop loving someone….. and even after the intial excitment you can feel you soon realise its not there anymore…

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Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 14:25:30

“no one has really answered my question”. Are you surprised Lib? Don’t ya know by now we bunch just do as we please here? 8)

To be fair to us though (ha!), the question you ask this time is a teeny weeny bit different from the initial ones!! A straight answer to this one: NO you don’t stop loving someone just because they have stopped loving you. You stop for your sanity and self-respect :)

“what happens if you see someone after a few years…” Hmmm, is there something you want to tell us here girl..? :)

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Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 14:31:55

a budding romance perhaps…. rekindled…. oo la la… ;)
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Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 14:36:52

Very appropriate French oo la la! :D

“Blonde Year in Review” Chook? Me heading right away to your post.

Oh btw, I meant to tell you folks, I plan to declare tomorrow the French Language Day at Flowers. Everyone must use at least one sentence in French when they comment.

If someone will just 2nd me on that pls, someone else 3rd me, and someone else else 4th me, we’re good to go!

What’s a little bit digression more on your post Libby? 8)

Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 14:37:33

Er.. more digression I think that should read, not digression more!

Jeez, I’m speaking French already and we’re only today!

 
Comment by Fertile Fish
2008-03-31 14:42:41

Yeah go on…… I’ll second it and contribute

 
Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 14:43:20

Digression is bien with me and I 3rd, 4th and 5th you.

 
Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 15:01:47

Kewl! Both Nemo and Libby supporting Flowers French Language Day! :) Mike come out of hiding and support it too, I can see you lurking around! 8) And leave those Ferrari tyres alone now mate, will ya!

You can start practising the French already guys, so tomorrow you can join at intermediate level while the others will be struggling at Beginner’s ha! ;)

Here, your first exercise.. translate the following:

Mon meilleur ami aujourd’hui s’appelle Elton :D

(try doing it without online translators!)

 
Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 15:07:32

My friend today is called Elton John?

I can’t believe you just made me say that!

 
Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 15:12:07

8/10 Lib! You missed one word and had one too many. I said Elton, not Elton John! :D

The things I’ll make you say tomorrow girl!! ;) Bwaaahaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa!

Come on Nemo! Your turn to… test the waters! 8)

Chook, we’re missing ya here!

 
Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 15:17:44

I’ll 3rd 3th or 5th that….
I’ll soit dans ce. chook

faites-vous Français de speek
très peu

Oh God I hope thats right.. :8

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Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 15:24:49

As long as I understand what you’re trying to say, we’re gud! And I did! :D

 
Comment by Fertile Fish
2008-03-31 15:27:52

Just a minute, wasn’t the translation “My BEST friend today is called Elton.”?

So ladies, who do you think will win the bitch-slappin contest between EJ and Afemp?

 
Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 15:36:40

Thats why I got 8 out of 10 FF and it depends on whether Elt’s got his platforms on.

 
Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 15:47:12

Correct Nemo, you ARE a smart little fish! But then, you got all the help you needed from Lib ha!

So it’s Lib 1 - Nemo 1 really! You’ll be competing against each other tomorrow you two, be ready! :)

Who do you think Bridget would like to see win between EJ & Afemp Nemo? Afemp?

Hum!

 
Comment by Fertile Fish
2008-03-31 15:51:28

Yebut, not who you want to win, who do you think will win?

 
Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 15:53:44

Nemo :)

 
Comment by Bridget Jones
2008-03-31 15:55:23

Part of the sentence disappeared, it should read: I’m still thinking about that Nemo :)

 
Comment by aussiecynic
2008-03-31 17:32:37

I’m Giving Angry at 5-1
and Elton at 6-1

but if Eltons got his Platforms on I’ll make it
elton 4-1
Angry 6-1
however…

If elton has his platforms and David cheering…
I’ll give odds at

Angry 87-1
Elton 3-1….

Any takers…. ;)
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Comment by AngryfromEllesmerePort
2008-03-31 17:57:41

BJ

Why not come down - i could kill two birds with one stone

 
Comment by Elton John - Drama Queen
2008-03-31 19:58:26

See, I reckon David must av bin right wiv is assessment of AFEMP in changin is name to SDFEMP right.

Why else would Smalld!<kfromellesmereport be stampin is feet and shakin is fists, if it weren’t not true!?!

 
Comment by Fertile Fish
2008-03-31 20:04:05

ROUND ONE goes to Elton John with a well aimed bitchslap right across Afemp’s face!!!

Go on Afemp!!!!!! Pull his hair, scratch his eyes out!

 
 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Emma F
2008-03-31 16:16:35

Wow - this has got me thinking….

I’m not sure that everyone has the same definition of love, but it’s a word that sums up many things. I think that there are different types of feelings that we associate with love, but sometimes get them mixed up - which is where confusion can come in.

Types of love from Wikipedia:

Eros (love) — a passionate physical love based on physical appearance
Ludus — love is played as a game; love is playful
Storge — an affectionate love that slowly develops, based on similarity
Pragma — pragmatic love
Mania — highly emotional love; unstable; the stereotype of romantic love
Agape — selfless altruistic love; spiritual

People receive love in many ways. There is a book - I haven’t read it, but have heard about some of the info in it. It is called something like “The five love languages”. We ‘feel loved’ through:
1) things people say
2) people spending time with us
3) receiving thoughtful gifts
4) people helping us
5) physical (not sexual) contact

To me, loving someone is something we ‘do’ to people in the ways described above that means they end up feeling loved.

So - in terms of actively loving someone (as per the languages), it is possible to stop (and is probably a contributing factor to marriage breakdown).
In terms of emotions you feel for someone, I don’t think it’s possible to turn emotions off. It is possible to understand why you are having that emotion, and possible to change your perceptions or beliefs that trigger the emotion.

Re capacity to forget - I’d say that where emotions are involved then when you are loving someone, you are giving a bit of yourself on an emotional level to that person. I’m not sure you’d forget that. What it is possible to do though is to deal with the consequenses of loving that person (re actions and emotions) and no longer being in a position to love (action) that person. So, if emotional pain is involved, it’s about dealing with the emotional pain.

Heart or brain? - Well, it’s all brain - the heart bit is the emotional bit of your brain. So, I think it comes down to learning to understand your emotions and understand the type of love involved.

Friends of ours, who are now married, avoided saying ‘I love you’ to each other, as they felt that you wouldn’t say that and not be prepared to do something about it in terms of their relationship. For them, it was marriage. So when he proposed, it was ‘I love you, will you marry me?’

Only my take - I’m not an expert - but I do love, and am loved.

Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 16:43:01

Top drawer Emma F.

How the heck do you distinguish between all the different loves? I’m a Libran and an eternal romantic, dangerously all love is the same to me.

Comment by Lib
2008-03-31 16:43:35

Er, obviously I can distinguish between family and non family love I hasten to add!

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Comment by Jim & Em
2008-03-31 20:33:05

You are a Libran Lib?

Does that mean you take books back that people loan from you?

The heart is where true love is at - the brain deceives us otherwise and chit chatter away - so do others in society….

Follow ones heart!

Comment by Emma F
2008-03-31 20:44:20

But the heart is also deceitful - ie we can wrongly interpret our emotions. We have to find a balance - and learn to understand what our heart is saying.

Before UP or FF points it out, I know the heart is just an organ that pumps blood around the body.

Comment by arvind
2008-03-31 21:37:17

Emma F - the heart may be “just” an organ that pumps blood around the body but it is what makes us human - loving, deceitful, caring and so on :-)
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Comment by Jim & Em
2008-04-01 17:20:29

Fair point people…..fair point!

All blood pumping organs can lead us away from the truth at times.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Emma F
2008-03-31 20:50:21

I think that is the challenge Lib.

I don’t think watching films, reading romance novels etc helps too much with this, as often love is protrayed incorrectly - especially EROS love (not saying we shouldn’t watch films, read romamce novels - just understand that they are not always a true reflection on life)

ie - if your boyfriend/husband/partner etc doesn’t treat you the same way as in films or books, that doesn’t mean they don’t love you, it could mean you are looking for the wrong thing, as you think that if they loved you, it would be the same as in the books, films etc.

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Comment by arvind
2008-03-31 21:40:48

You hit it on the nail Emma F. We all have this concept of how love should be and how it should be shown.

So only when the fanciful, romantic stage is over and done with, the real love can come through if it is there in the first place.

If and when it is over, the head often rules and to answer Lib’s question, I don’t think love can come back. Not the hot, passionate, romantic type anyway - we just learn to “love” that person as one loves another human being.

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Comment by Emma F
2008-04-01 12:25:19

I think there is still a place for fanciful and romantic in a relationship - it’s part of what keeps a relationship alive. Both people have to keep actively loving each other - and that includes the hot, passionate, romantic stuff. Mike and I have been married for nearly 17 years, we have had big ups and big downs, but we still have hot, passionate, romantic moments :)

I think relationships struggle when one, or both, people stop working at it - ie stop thinking about the other person, communicating what they are thinking, stop trusting each other……etc etc.

But - I also believe that if those same people agree to start working on their relationship, then it’s possible to ‘get the love back’ - although I think of it more as turning up the gas to a pilot light. Trust is a big thing though. I beleive it underpins everything. If that has been broken, then I still believe it’s possible to get it back, but again, it takes work and effort on both sides.

This applies to all loving relationships - friends, family etc (hot, passionate, romantic bits not applicable to all though!).

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Rufus
2008-03-31 18:52:59

I love my family. I also love ice cream (peanut butter chunks with chocolate, mmmm)
I could learn to live without the ice cream, not the family.

Love comes in many flavors, sort of like ice cream! It’s subjective.
I still love my high school sweetheart, but I don’t arrange my life around those feelings.

And don’t our perceptions change with maturity? Aren’t we supposed to begin to balance our heart & mind in the process of our growth?
Wow — what a thought provoking few words Lib. And timely for yours truly here because I’m struggling with that balancing act right now.
I don’t want to return to California — my heart tells me to stay put.
My mind says, “WTF mate? What ARE you thinking? Go, smell the funky garden that you planted in So.Cal., fiss it up, finalize your bs dilemma and get the hell out.”
Yeah.

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Comment by Dubai Guy Subscribed to comments via email
2008-04-01 12:02:17

I think for a normal person, it is heart which controls the brain. Maybe thats the reason why people too much influenced by their brain are called “cold hearted”.

I believe we humans have this great capacity of going on with our lives even when we are “broken hearted”. If that was not the case, I am sure most of us have stopped living after failing at the first hurdle in our lives. As they say, people come & go but the life never stops. The show must go on :-)
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Comment by arvind
2008-04-02 16:28:03

Here’s a great definition of TRUE LOVE:-

“To want for the other person what they want for themselves, even if you prefer they wanted something else.”

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