GO! Smell the mistaken identity!

Posted on January 10th, 2008 by Jim

Anyone here at flowers ever been involved of a case of mistaken identity or know anyone who has? Do tell!

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41 Responses to “GO! Smell the mistaken identity!”

  1. sarah says:

    I was once mistaken for Jodie Foster.

    Scary.

    She has a stalker.

    No such luck :-)

  2. Jon Different says:

    an old school friend of mine committed suicide over a case of mistaken idenity.

    there was an incident in a small town c;ose to where we lived, two young girls aged around 10 years old had been raped and murdered. the police had only a handful of leads to go on.

    in due course a photo fit picture of the key suspect was released, it was the spitting image of of my friend dan. the identification posters went up in all the neighbouring towns and villages. daniel was taken in for questioning on a number of occasions.

    that he had a cast iron alibi, was of no consequence. the police repeatedly hassled him. but it was not the police that was his big problem, it was society at large. when every pub you go in carries a picture of a face that looks like yours, all the local newsagents had the same image aswell, the public quickly becomes a dangerous beast.

    the pressure of all this was too much and dan comitted suicide about 12 months after the crime. was he guilty? I believe not. The police, despite taking dan into custody for questioning never pressed any charges. he did have a cast iron alibi that involved mebers of his family and his friends.

    to my kbowledge the crime has never been solved.

    daniel pemberton, rest in peace

    • O'DB says:

      Sad story, Jon.

      I vaguely remember reading that witness identification, particularly in artists impressions from such witness descriptions, is one of the weakest pieces of evidence; witness ID shows very low verified corroboration rates.

      • Lib says:

        Raa Jon, incredibly sad.

        Vigilantiasm, a bigger worry for me than the s**t the police peddle out as a routine process of their ‘job’.

        The ‘Bulger’ case in the UK was a biggy years ago (you are probably aware of it) 2 young boys (and I mean young) were convicted of a 3 year old’s murder and were institutionalised at about the age of 11, realised under assumed identities when they turned 18.

        Ever since they have been living under the threat of vigilantiasm, the story constantly in the press since they have been released.

        Not good.

        • Just googled the Bulger case Lib.

          Makes me wonder. At what age should kids be held fully accountable for their actions and isn’t 7-8 years imprisonment enough of a price to pay for one’s crime, especially when you started paying at 11?

          Anyone??

          • Lib says:

            My thoughts exactly Bridget, there is so much to this case and the whole ‘they knew what they were doing’ is a ridiculously simplistic and easier excuse for people to ‘blame’ the kids involved rather than take a look at the society and growing up process that they were involved in in the first instance.

          • O'DB says:

            Crikey, you’ve left Pandora’s Box wide open with this one …

            Awful case & incredibly emotive, the details being horrific and the ages of the victim & perpertrators being so young. It’s a case that makes your stomach hollow & many ppl feel that release of the instigators under assumed identity was far too lenient, even if as you suggest their understanding & recognition of their deeds was likely to be highly compromised by their ingnorance & youth. Don’t remember the full details, but think this was the crux of the prosecution case: just how much can children realise the consequences of their actions, at what point in their development can they be held accountable. A big factor in the prosecution’s case made the conviction on this developmental concept i.e., the age at which we discern between right & wrong.

      • Jim & Em says:

        Shocking beyond belief and what man can do to man is beyond us. Where they men?

        True story - (Lib a seperate post may still be worth it - on the topic but your call) we used to park our car by the terrace houses in a road near Goodison Park, home of Everton Football (soccer) club from late 80’s to late 90’s. A young cheruby faced lad aged 9 /10 used to pop over to the car every other week at around 12.30 and ask for his ‘mind your car, Mr’ money.

        The idea being the local lads would make sure no harm was done to the car while you headed off to the pub and then the match.

        For weeks week we gave him our pocket change to the young lads and then the bulger case happened.
        The week later we parked the car in the usual place but the house had been gutted, windows put through and werereplaced by plywood that had ‘ Mudrering Bastards’ daubed all over them. It was the house of Thompson, one of the murderers!

  3. O'DB says:

    No never.

    Hey, but that guy reading the news looks just like the … photo-fit … it’s HIM, quick get him, he’s the rapist.

  4. arvind says:

    I was once mistaken for a Bollywood actor :-)

    • Jon Different says:

      yes but arvind, you are an indian…. ill bet you werent in bradford when you were mistaken

      • arvind says:

        Jon, you are very observant - yes, I am an Indian.

        I was in London when I was mistaken as a Bollywood actor.

        And this is despite some parts of London being just like Bradford i.e. full of Indians.

        Many years ago, I did visit Hereford (small English country town) where I got some strange looks. I asked my English (i.e. white) friends why this was and they said that I was probably one of the first indians they had ever seen!

        They probably mistook me for Mowgli from the jungle book.

        • Jon Different says:

          dont wory mate, ive just been mistaken for compo off last of the summer wine……

          funny how the image of a typical yourkshireman brings that cartoonish character to mind, they dont ever expect me to be like sean bean, ie dashing suave and big hit with the women

      • Jim & Em says:

        Oh how we love those Bradford Balti’s - have you ever sampled a ‘mumtahs’ curry,Jon?

  5. Anne says:

    That’s the funniest picture I’ve seen in a while! Yeah, everyone thinks I’m a supermodel… hahaha!

    • arvind says:

      Anne, supermodel and mother of 7 - very impressive!!!

      But which “supermodel”!?

      Yes, a funny picture but if you look closely, apart from the newscaster and the wanted image both being clearly of African origin, there is actually not that much resemblance.

      Shows how easily mistaken identity comes about.

    • Anne, nice to see you here again!

      Bridget should really stop at your blog long enough to get a few recipes. Maybe then she’d get off the shelf ha! ;)

      Arvind, it doesn’t matter what supermodel mate, when you can cook like this, it’s more than enough ha! ;)

  6. I’ve never been mistaken for anyone…but I’m with Anne…that is the funniest picture I’ve seen in a while too! LOL

  7. Mistaken identities huh? Yeah, Bridget has been mistaken for a fireman often.. ha! ;)

  8. aussiecynic says:

    This is true…. no lie

    There was a girl who had the same name as me, born on the same day and lived in the same area as me….
    I never met her but was mistaken for her at the bank…… thankfully I could prove I wasnt her but it was tricky….

    I was also mistaken for Prince Andrews former wife.. Sarah Ferguson…
    When they came to OZ…

  9. Indeed.

    Subject for a separate post perhaps Lib? Yours rightfully girl, you brought up the Bulger case.

  10. You just couldn’t wait until Lib put up a separate post, could ya?! ;)

    Thanks for the insight O’DB. So people thought that the sentence was far too lenient?? Bridget hasn’t researched the case in detail (yet ha!), but that sounds a bit excessive to her. Surely society can’t desire to condemn them forever?

    Doesn’t everyone deserve a second chance if they have repented…? This Bridget gives second chances..

  11. Jon Different says:

    jimmy bulgers murder was cruel, violent, torturous and sadistic.

    i think that if the death penalty had been put to the national vote at the time of the trial, the british tax payer would have saved a small fortune today as they pay to hide the identities of two of the perpertators of possibly britain’s most heinous act of violence post world war ii.

    why dont you ask the parents this question of that poor poor boy?

  12. O'DB says:

    Yea sorry, slow 2-fingered typer and was moulding my words (my mind is almost as slow as my typing) as you were suggesting Lib’s separate post; still think she should post it, but it’s a big, messy and highly charged area.

    The case is sickening, even with years to dull the sensation, it’s a horrible crime.

    Without wanting to sound like The Sun’s (UK, right wing, gutter paper) Gary Bushell, their very own Voice of (un)Reason, second chances are fine but where’s Jamie Bulger’s?

    Not necessarily my viewpoint, but the victim, victim’s family & friends also need to be taken into account.

  13. Jon Different says:

    well i will not stand on the fence.

    for a crime of this nature i would unhesitatingly vote for the death penalty.

  14. arvind says:

    The Bulger Case is very fresh in my mind and brings up some very mixed emotions.

    It was around the same weekend that I got engaged, Valentines day 1993.

    I remember how shaken the nation was at the time.

  15. Jon Different says:

    so what would you do with thye perpertators of this despicable act of gross inhumanity arvind?

  16. Thanks guys for the insight. Clearly a touchy subject that still elicits strong emotional reactions all those years later.

    Bridget is definitely going to google it further for a better understanding ha!

    Lib, look forward to a separate post on this girl.

    On a totally different note, how did your little bundle of joy enjoy her Xmas painting set/ musical instrument gifts? … And your bro? ;)

  17. Lib says:

    Opted for clothes and educational toys in the end Bridget, she’d already been bought loads of highly annoying painting material.

    Cute, cute, cute!

  18. Jon Different says:

    the queen, impressive…… wouldnt have had her down for one of yorkshires mucky curries!!

  19. David S says:

    Yes this is true, I had a meeting with the owners of the business a few months ago. They supply those yoghurt drinks, lassi, direct to the palace and have done for a couple of years, you have to supply for 5 years to get the Royal Warrant.

    They also cook for the palace when Indian / Pakistani cusine is required.

    I ate there myself when I had my meeting, nothing mucky about their curries….

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