
Ho, ho, ho no… I am a little late, however I am here. I have been missing for a few weeks what with my slow connection and then preparations for Christmas! We did have an awesome day and my kids still believe in Santa and so do I. Shocked? Well let me explain why. This past year has truly been such an incredible year for me in so many ways.
Firstly I managed to contract myself out to do some IM and research work and that came after I approached a business associate and told him why I could be an asset to his company, which in turn, I was then approached by another business associate who offered me the exact work I was looking for. (This is a case of stating what you want to the universe and it will be given.) Secondly, my relationship with my partner is back on track to better days (things were a little rocky at the start of the year). And thirdly, my business is starting to see some dollars
There is so much more and I don’t want to take up too much space. Instead, I ask you to take a look at a video message I recorded. Yes it is moi, getting right out of my comfort zone to offer you a gift. Constructive criticism of the video will be accepted only if you put in a request for my gift. Any other comments welcome. Shortly, I will be posting a challenge for the New Year so keep an eye out












































PS. In my excitement to be back, I forgot to mention that you are all welcome to take up my offer. I have just returned from the post office sending off the first batch of books
Sorry Angie, can’t see the video due to slowwww connection at my end :(( I’ll check it out asap. Er.. Is this a valid enough excuse to qualify for the gift?
You got yourself some great achievements here girl, bravo! Good to hear some chicks are ending the year in their beaux’s arms ha!
Bridget is singing ‘All by Myself’ everyday in the shower ha!
P.S
About your last blog comment Angie, I made up my mind.. I think! It’s in Bridget’s diary. Do lemme know what you think of this Chicken if you get a chance to stop by!
Bridget… I will read it again today and leave you a note
I like your style
Thanks Angie, and will look forward to your note
Of course you qualify… seeing as it is a book, I will require a physical address to send it to, so if you go to http://angesbiz.com/contact-me/ and leave me your details, I will get one in the post to you ASAP.
On the other note, it does require working at the relationship and after 15 years and two beautiful girls, it’s worth it to make the effort. Thanks Bridget
But at least you are showering now Bridget which is a step in the right direction
LOL Gary, as always!
Just imagine, Bridget attracted so much attention when she was a dirty girl!
Now that she’s cleaning up her act.. it’s gonna be raining men ha!
Hi there Ange welcome back….
The list of those of us whose identity is still unknown is becoming smaller and smaller…. I still like my secret…. I can walk past and no-one would no it is me…hehehehehehehe…
Slightly scary thought that one….oh well…. great video btw and very brave I am still to chicken to do it….
your gift is amazing but I am afraid I am not the motivational speaker or reader type…..
I actually fall asleep and have done so at many seminars… it is very funny because I snore very loadly…. needless to say it didnt go down well at any of the seminars and one of them I paid more than $300 for my ticket…. but because I fell asleep I asked for money back my arguement being I wasnt even motivated to stay awake….. after nearly an hour and a bit of a scene i did get a refund….
I reckon if it works for people great I just cant get it….
But good luck to you….. it sounds like it is working for you well done
AC
LOL AC… sleeping through seminars! I have attended many of Jamie’s seminars and when he says that sleep is over-rated… it certainly is OVER-RATED! The days start at 9am and can go through till 2am in the morning! I have stayed awake through 5 of these already in the past year.
Next year, I will be attending Anthony Robbins “Date with Destiny” on the Gold Coast and that one is a 6 day seminar where the hours are similar and I can’t wait
I guess I like the adrenalin rush it gives me.
One of my dreams is to be a speaker and making that video was a big step for me. There you go… I have just told the whole world now.
I’m glad you got your refund for the seminar.
not having a go but 6 days doing 15-20 hours of listening to a speaker smacks o brainwashing and cultism to me
just my take on it!
erm 15-20 hours of listening to a ’speaker’ smacks of brainwashing and NLP cultism to me!
just my thoughts!!
LOL Gary… were you doing a double take here!
Call it what you like… it works for me. No cultism involved… everyone is welcome to come and go as they please. It’s not for everyone. Perhaps you feel comfortabe living in your 2D world
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4
for when you have the bandwidth to watch it.
2d world?
please explain as you’ve lost me there! is it an nlp term for people who don’t believe!!
As a newcomer I am still getting to know you all, but am truly amazed by your generosity - do you really mean it? Postage to France will cost a fortune - how about just letting me have the download version. I don’t usually go for this sort of thing, but being at one of many crossroads in my life perhaps it is time to try.
All best to you, your family and your plans for 2008
Babette
Hi Babette and welcome
The offer is real and as I mentioned above, I have already posted some books out.
The download version is open to everyone as well, so please do. If you change your mind and would rather read a hard copy version, all you have to do is leave me your details. If you have any questions regarding the download, send me a note via the contact page.
Thank you for your wishes and make 2008 a great one!
Merry Christmas yo!
Wah, you are giving away an book!
I live in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
You live in France??
That is too far away!
I have downloaded the ebook and watched and downloaded the Part 1 out of 7 of the Video Guide thingie by the Jamie dude.
Thanks for sharing yo!
Cheers!
Thank you Deimos, I’m glad you enjoyed the video guide that comes with the download. Jamie is a really cool dude
unfortunately due to a limited download I can’t view it at the mo’
I’m with AC on the speaker thing but if it floats your boat and people will pay you to do it then more power to you.
Thanks Gary, I totally feel the limited download thingie as I went through it the last few weeks. If you do get a chance to watch it, let me know
Welcome back Ange and we’ve just left a message over at your blog having watched your wonderful youtube greetings! A great first effort from you…thanks for sharing your 2007 highlights with us!
2008 will be a great year for you, of that there is no doubt and you truly are a shining example of the unconditional law of attraction! Our tip for you youtube vid - just keep on doing more and it comes across as authentic which is half the battle on screen - we’ll be posting outr Dubai TV debut we did right here before the end of the year….
Have you considered joining toastmasters or the professional speakers association to get your name on the circuit? Alos have you defined your niche yet? your X factor?
Do keep us informed and we are sure you’ll get some honest feedback from fellow founders….
Good for you & keep on following that BIG heart of yours!
ERM JIM AND EM
2008 will be a great year for you, of that there is no doubt
Don’t tell me …………… your doing psychic/tarot stuff now.
I hope all on here have a great year but I have no idea or evidence that they will. So I would say Ange I hope you have a great year although it is purely a wish and I have no evidence or reason tosay that you will other than I would HOPE you do.
as ever…….. here to help
Erm we truly belive that ange WILL HAVE a great year - the law of attraction, create your own reality and watch ‘what the BLEEP do we know’ Gary then give us your take on Quantum meets spirituality…
No we are not tarrot carded up but have recently finished are REIKI 2 to take those group hugs all the more powerful…
Do you doubt the power of crystals as well?
The very essense of all global communication is down to crystals - think about it!
sorry the ‘evidence’ must have been deleted!
ok create my own reality
I am from now on a successful black female soul singer- i believe this and will have a multi platinum album by tomorrow night.
crystals
reiki
quantum physics proving spirituality
please show me the evidence- make it succinct
LOL Gary!
We picture you as the Mamma off Tom n Jerry - are we close?
on a serious note
read some richard dawkins
or even read some of the derren brown book that is in france with you
you see I believe a belief system should be communicated with easily understandable, transparent language and should be succinct.
the new age stuff is none of these
plus its based on opinion and belief rather than fact
also if I may…………
please explain briefly the ‘law of attraction’………..
In short you attract into your life what you wish - send the message out to the Universe and one day it will be!
My X factor will be in line with Success Coaching. I will be undertaking my NLP Master Practitioner in February so I will be more clear once that is completed. Flowers has given me a great platform to interesting discussions as has my blog too.
Thanks for the encouragement as it was the first time I have released footage of me. Now that that one is out of the way, I will be able to do more of them.
Joining toastmasters is something that has been mentioned to me before so I must look into it. Also, I have an upcoming audio interview which I will add in one of my posts here. It will be live online on the 2nd January so you will be able to listen in while it’s on or listen to e recorded message later. Questions will also be welcome. More on that in a couple of days
erm
NLP
Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP): New Age. Techniques developed by Richard Bandler and Dr. John Grinder that allegedly enable practitioners to read random eye movements and other visual cues during conversation or counseling to “program” a client’s behavior and restructure their core beliefs. Called “software for the brain,” it is supposed to be faster and more powerful than traditional clinical counseling and can work without the subject’s conscious knowledge. The co-founders have been heavily involved with other New Age practices. NLP failed scientific tests conducted by the U.S. Army.
So you are a master practitioner of something prved to be of no real worth.
PLEASE don’t think I am having a go at you personaly Ange- I’m not. I just disagree with NLP, and its effectveness and it is the first step used to brainwash people into cults. Agree or disagree?
Again not a personal attack on yo just on pseudo science
hmmmm… well the same can be said for psychiatry… that it is a pseudo science
http://www.encognitive.com/psychiatry/psychiatry-a-pseudo-science-2007-sep-16.html
This site makes for interesting reading for anyone that is interested. There is no basis for any biological test that can prove a chemical imbalance in the brain. I knew this and had to find something to share with you.
Here is one psychiatrists answer to whether there is any proof of a chemical imbalance in the brain:
Male psychiatrist: “In my practice, I don’t do any test. I just speak to people and listen to them. Then I make a decision on what kind of illness they have.”
This diagnosis doesn’t even look at “eye movements.”
As far as NLP is concerned, it gives you harmony within yourself. Inner harmony opens the door to a healthier, happier you. No-one else but you.
It is used for clients who want to have a desired outcome and by integrally and linguistically changing a person’s neurology to achieve that outcome. So by changing their inner attitude of their minds, it can change the outer aspects of their lives.
Call it brainwashing if you want to but it’s no more brainwashing than watching TV. It goes on all around the place without us knowing.
No offense taken Gary, it’s a great discussion
btw… Pavlov started his behavioral studies in psychology in the late 1800’s so way before Bandler and Grinder came into play.
no more brainwashing than TV
How many people pay thousands to sit in a room with hundreds to e preached at a single message.
can you change the channel innlp? nope.
as for psychiatry being pseudo science erm
According to the American Psychiatric Association: “A psychiatrist is a physician who specializes in the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of mental illnesses and substance use disorders. It takes many years of education and training to become a psychiatrist: He or she must graduate from college and then medical school, and go on to complete four years of residency training in the field of psychiatry. (Many psychiatrists undergo additional training so that they can further specialize in such areas as child and adolescent psychiatry, geriatric psychiatry, forensic psychiatry, psychopharmacology, and/or psychoanalysis.) This extensive medical training enables the psychiatrist to understand the body’s functions and the complex relationship between emotional illness and other medical illnesses. The psychiatrist is thus the mental health professional and physician best qualified to distinguish between physical and psychological causes of both mental and physical distress.”
do NLP’ers undergo this RECOGNISED med training. nope.
in short i COULD DO A FEW COURSES and become an ‘expert’
says a lot about the worth of it
Good on ya Ange, great to see you up close and presonal!
thanks Fab
Wow - how very generous! And I think your video came across very nicely - you are a good speaker! I hope 2008 brings you more happiness and suceess than you ever imagined!
Thanks Olga… 2008 will be great for me… I know it will as I am laying it out now as I want it
Hi Ange,
I’ve read a few of these books and they just don’t do it for me. They seem like common sense to me and don’t offer much enlightenment.
My mum even got me a book for Xmas as a mickey take (at least I think it was a mickey take, she might be trying to tell me something) its called How to Lose Weight! Get Laid! Find God!.
However, never say never (not meant to rhyme) and I always accept something that is free so I’ll leave my details.
Well done in your achievements and I’ll look forward to letting you know I get on with the book. (your one, not the one my mum got me)
Hi Lib, it sounds like you guys had a bit of fun yesterday
Thanks for the request and I will send the book out when the post office opens on Monday. You know where I am if you have questions about it too
most altruistic of you Ange. fair play!
… and btw… I thought this post was meant to be about my debut video posting!!!
hate to tell you all this
despite me believing I am a black soul singer who will have a multi platinum album today its not happened. I did loads of positive thought exercises this morning but so far nothing.
I think I may have a problem with my chakras after my curry last night?
LOL Gary as always!
so if a paedophile wants to child to turn up at his house it will happen?
if a starving person in africa wants a pizz hut to be built in his village by tomorrow it will happen?
a mother loses a child and wants said child to come back to life?
if a terminally ill person wants to be cured of cancer it will happen?
if same person wants to live till 500 years of age it will happen?
more nonsense.
you don’t SERIOUSLY believe this do you?
if so please counter the above points.
who invented this scientific ‘law of attraction’?
its harldy Newtons stuff now is it.
rather some US motivationally bullsh***er who makes a load of dollars of gullible people
okay … another explanation needed here I see…
The Law of Attraction works whether you want something or not… the operative word being “want” the universe does not know the difference… it can’t tell whether it’s good or bad for you, only that you do or don’t want it.
When you really want something, and I mean REALLY want something, playing a game as if you already hold that thing in your hands or are already living in a bigger house, or feel like you are driving the car of your dreams… whatever it is… the thing that counts most is that you FEEL like you already are in possession of that thing. This way, you bring yourself in alignment with that thing you want and it will show up… believe that you will receive it.
The things you don’t want like more bills, or hope that you don’t get a parking ticket or hope that you don’t catch that cold… inevitably, you end up with it because you focus on it. I know as I get these things too if I focus on them.
Being aware of your thoughts and changing them to the things you want is how to get them. No hocus pocus Gary.
so the above definition is WRONG
I do wish you new agers could agree on something. most confusing. but then its just opinion not science or fact so each persons interpretation will be what they want.
surely any human is aware of their thoughts and how to make them positive?
hardly a ‘law’ is it?
actually Gary, it is right!
“you attract into your life what you wish - send the message out to the Universe and one day it will be!”
what you wish/want - what you focus on whether you want it or not… spot on! I just went into rambling mode to explain it
so if its right please feel free to deal with each of the points I raised which disprove the law as being nonsense!
not having a go just looking for fact based truth not opinion!
Have you ever heard of “Fire the Grid?” Here is a story of a woman bringing herself and her son back to life after drowning in a marsh
http://www.firethegrid.com/eng/home-fr-eng.htm
The rest is also possible if the person really wants that thing and believes they will get it. I don’t have any specific links to the other examples you gave.
Here is another story of the “miracle man” Morris Goodman who also appears in The Secret movie.
http://www.themiracleman. org/
I have left a space between the . and org so that this comment wouldn’t go into spam, so copy and paste it in and fix the space or it won’t work.
I met and heard Morris speak at a seminar two years ago. He went down in an airplane crash and the ambo’s had said that there was no way he would live when they got to him. He was determined to walk out of the hospital when he recovered and this is an amazing story of recovery using the Law of Attraction.
It does work!!
Happy reading
so 2 examples out of the many millions no billons over history who have not wanted to die?
not the most convincing stat is it really?
if the people of hiroshima had wanted to live so badly could they?
nope.
That is a 2 dimensional world. Not people who don’t believe, rather people who don’t like getting out of their comfort zone and looking outside of themselves to be able to experience inner harmony… the video does explain it better than I could.
thanks for the condescension
as with many of these things it implies you are gaining something I am not by being complicit in the wholly unproven practice of NLP.
I find that arrogant to say the least.
I have some inner harmony and am fine with that. My harmony comes from fact not fiction.
I get more harmony searching for truth than I do believing in pseudo-science like NLP stuff.
rE- nlp Here is a brief review of its ‘effectivenes’
Psychological research and reviews
Main articles: NLP and science and List of studies on Neuro-linguistic programming
[edit] Journal of Counseling Psychology
In 1984, Sharpley, researching for the Journal of Counselling Psychology, undertook a literature review of 15 studies on the existence and effectiveness of preferred representational systems (PRS), an important underlying principle of NLP, and found “little research evidence supporting its usefulness as an effective counseling tool” and no reproducible support for preferred representational systems and predicate matching.[26] Einspruch and Forman (1985) broadly agreed with Sharpley (1984) but disputed the conclusions, identifying a failure to address methodological errors in the research reviewed. They stated that “NLP is far more complex than presumed by researchers, and thus, the data are not true evaluations of NLP”[26] adding that NLP is difficult to test under the traditional counseling psychology framework. Moreover, they argued the research lacked a necessary understanding of pattern recognition as part of advanced NLP training, there was inadequate control of context, an unfamiliarity with NLP as an approach to therapy, inadequate definitions of rapport and numerous logical mistakes in the research methodology.[42] Sharpley (1987) responded to Einspruch and Forman (1985) with a review of a further 7 studies on the same basic tenets (totalling 44 including those cited by Einspruch and Forman).[8] This second review included Elich et al (1985), a study that found no support for the proposed relationship between eye movements, spoken predicates, and internal imagery. Elich et al stated that “NLP has achieved something akin to cult status when it may be nothing more than a psychological fad” (p625).[28]
Sharpley stated “Data collected in 44 studies clearly indicate an overwhelming finding that (a) the PRS cannot be reliably assessed; (b) when it is assessed, the PRS is not consistent over time; therefore, (c) it is not even certain that the PRS exists; and (d) matching clients’ or other persons’ PRS does not appear to assist counselors reliably in any clearly demonstrated manner.”and “there are conclusive data from the research on NLP, and the conclusion is that the principles and procedures of NLP have failed to be supported by those data”… “certainly research data do not support the rather extreme claims that proponents of NLP have made as to the validity of its principles or the novelty of its procedures.” Also that NLP may be untestable stating “perhaps NLP principles are not amenable to research evaluation. This does not necessarily reduce NLP to worthlessness for counseling practice. Rather, it puts NLP in the same category as psychoanalysis, that is, with principles not easily demonstrated in laboratory settings but, nevertheless, strongly supported by clinicians in the field.”
Sharpley states that a number of NLP techniques are worthwhile or beneficial in counselling, citing predicate matching, mirroring clients behaviors, moving sensory modalities, reframing, anchoring and changing history, but that none of these techniques originated within NLP, saying “NLP may be seen as a partial compendium of rather than as an original contribution to counseling practice and, thereby, has a value distinct from the lack of research data supporting the underlying principles that Bandler and Grinder posited to present NLP as a new and magical theory”. He concluded that as a counselling tool, the techniques and underlying theory unique to NLP, were both empirically unvalidated and unsupported but that “if NLP is presented as a theory-less set of procedures gathered from many approaches to counselling, then it may serve as a reference role for therapists who wish to supplement their counselling practice by what may be novel techniques to them.”
[edit] Other reviews of evidence for preferred representational systems
A study by Buckner et al (1987), (after Sharpley), using trained NLP practitioners found support for the claim that specific eye movement patterns existed for visual and auditory (but not kinesthetic) components of thought, and that trained observers could reliably identify them.[25] However, the study did not cover whether such patterns indicated a preferred representational system. They also made suggestions for further research. Krugman et al (1985) tested claims for a ‘one-session’ treatment of performance anxiety against another method and a control group and found no support for claims of a ‘one-session’ effective treatment.[43]They argued for further research into NLP amongst other treatments that have “achieved popularity in the absence of data supporting their utility”.
[edit] National Research Council evaluation
In 1988 at the request of the US Army, the National Research Council evaluated several highly marketed “New age” human performance enhancement technologies.[9] Druckman, one of the evaluators, said that “we found little if any evidence to support NLP’s assumptions or that it is effective as a strategy for social influence.” Although it found little evidence for NLP in the existing research, it noted that the body of research had largely not tested NLP beyond the assumptions related to Preferred Representation Systems (matching the body of research referred to in the Journal of Counselling Psychology).
Druckman also said “we were impressed with the modeling approach used to develop the technique. The technique was developed from careful observations of the way three master psychotherapists conducted their sessions, emphasizing imitation of verbal and nonverbal behaviors (Druckman & Swets, 1988, Chapter 8).[9] This then led the committee to take up the topic of expert modeling in the second phase of its work.”[44] However, the second phase on expert modeling, inspired by NLP, was done outside the field of NLP.[44]
[edit] Decrease in research interest
This short section requires expansion.
These mid-80s reviews marked the decline in research interest in NLP generally, and particular in matching sensory predicates and its use in counselor-client relationship in counseling psychology.[12].
There has been some ongoing research by both NLP practitioners and psychologists, including outcome-based research and research of therapies which share NLP processes, but there are no thorough reviews or meta-analyses of NLP’s effectiveness and NLP was dropped from the experimental psychology research stream.[45] Similarly in the field of psychotherapy it is stated that the “original interest in NLP turned to disillusionment after the research and now it is rarely even mentioned in psychotherapy”.[46] Devilly (2005) states that “at the time of its introduction, NLP was heralded as a breakthrough in therapy and advertisements for training workshops, videos and books began to appears in trade magazines. The workshops provided certification… However, controlled studies shed such a poor light on the practice, and those promoting the intervention made such extreme and changeable claims that researchers began to question the wisdom of researching the area further and even suggested that NLP was an untestable theory”…”NLP is no longer as prevalent as it was in the 1970s or 1980s, but is still practiced in small pockets of the human resource community. The science has come and gone, yet the belief still remains”.[7]
[edit] Lack of scientific validation
Proponents of NLP often claim it is predicated on a scientific understanding and the title of Neuro-linguistic programming implies a basis in science. Psychologists Margaret Singer and Janja Lalich (1996) in Crazy Therapies say that despite lack of support from scientific research, marketers continues “to call the originators ’scientists’ and to use such terms a ’science’, ‘technology’ and ‘hi-tech psychology’ in describing NLP”.[47] Cognitive neuroscience researcher Michael C Corballis (1999) says that “NLP is a thoroughly fake title, designed to give the impression of scientific respectability.”[48]
Evidence-based researcher and clinician Scott Lilienfeld says that “largely untested treatments comprise a major proportion—in some cases a majority—of the interventions delivered by mental health professionals.”[11] Lilienfeld argues that NLP, as a New Age psychotherapy, is one of many hundreds of variations of psychotherapy that have not been subject to rigorous empirical validation. Lilienfeld and colleagues believe that randomized controlled studies are the only way to verify whether or not psychotherapeutic treatments are effective.[11] It is argued that the proof of the validity of new therapeutic practices in clinical psychology fall on the proponents of these practices.[49] There has been no peer-reviewed empirical research on VK/D (Visual/Kinesthetic dissociation),[7] an intervention derived from NLP which has been been taught alongside other Power therapies (eg. EMDR, TFT).[49]
Psycholinguist Willem Levelt (in Dutch skeptic magazine Skepter) acknowledges that the main point of NLP was pragmatic, but doubts the basis in neurology, linguistics and computer programming implied in the title of Neuro-linguistic programming. He argues that most modern neurologists are informed about the brain based on neuro-imaging and clinical data but in NLP there has been little interest in this neuroscience or clinical research. He asserts that the experimental evidence does not exist to support the hypothesis that eye movements can reveal preferred representational system. He also claims there are philosophical conflicts between the NLP meta model, the philosophy of David Hume (sensory experience is combined to form representations) and William Wundt (which Levelt considers close to “the study of subjective experience”, a main idea in NLP).[50]
If paying to learn this nonsense, getting a pointless qualification in ‘bunkum’ and then spreading the word of the idiot gives you an extra dimension I’ll stay as I am.
Gary, this was not meant to be condescending… I apologize if that’s how it came across. I was just trying to state what 2 dimensional vs 3 dimensional thinking is.
Is a HUG inappropriate?
This is a great thread and we have both had a pop of having NLP practiced on us and bought a
‘lets learn NLP book” despite having no formal training and enjoyed watching various shows on
hypnosis….
The key exercise that worked for Em (NLP or not) was to help her cure her fear of spiders before
we headed off down the Amazon to spend 6 nights in the jungle. she was asked to imagine sitting
in a theatre and go back to a time of distress from childhood (say seeing a spider and being scared
for the first time) and to replay the scene but substituting the scary parts, for example, with other
comical features (like a bright red spider wearing blue wellies) in cartoon mode.
This worked and cured her fear of spiders - OK Em doesnt have the, as pets but doesnt freeze / refuse
to go anywhere when she sees one or thinks there ,maybe one around.
Hope this helps - it helped us as we are slowly learning to condition our minds! Fair?
Thanks for that example Jim n Em. It’s all about re-training the brain and how you react or perceive a certain situation to be. The mind is the most powerful tool that we have and most of us do not use it to it’s full potential. The human side of us would freak out if what we wanted to manifest would turn up instantly.
Example, if you drive a bomb of a car and you wished you had a Ferrari, how you you react if it suddenly showed up in your garage?
Gary, I do have a Diploma of Health Science and spent years studying and thousands of dollars to get it, so I am qualified to know how the body works and all the systems that make it go.
On top of that, I have spent countless hours reading and learning about health and nutrition… NLP is a form of “natural” healing which is the path I wish to pursue. The medical side of this equation is not for me.
Drugs prescribed by the medical profession are ingested and then urinated into our water ways. Who drinks the water? Everyone, so we are all affected by these drugs unless we drink reverse osmosis filtered water. These drugs have affected not only humans but also the balance of the eco system along with other pollutants that get dumped into our water ways.
Drugs only mask the symptom and act as a band-aid rather than actually curing the ailment. The body heals itself if the mind is willing.
The rate of infertility is growing as with cancer, and I believe it is due to hormone imbalance and lack of good nutritional habits.
I have a voice and want to reach as many people possible not to brainwash them, rather to give them something to think about and something that they can use for themselves if they wish. I have a long way to go and this is a great platform to discuss these issues.
Take it or leave it. It’s up to every individual to decide for themselves.
Thank you to Jim n Em for allowing me to share my views here.
OK MY BITS IN CAPS YOURS AS POSTED!! OK!!
Gary, I do have a Diploma of Health Science and spent years studying and thousands of dollars to get it, so I am qualified to know how the body works and all the systems that make it go.
DIPLOMA OF HEALTH SCIENCE?? NO DISRESPECT BUT THATS KINDERGARTEN COMPARED TO A MED DOCTOR- BUT SEEING AS YOU ARE HERE A QUESTION- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF DE-COUPLING AGENTS REGARDING INCREASED THERMOGENESIS?
On top of that, I have spent countless hours reading and learning about health and nutrition… NLP is a form of “natural” healing which is the path I wish to pursue. The medical side of this equation is not for me.
I’VE READ ABOUT SPACE TRAVEL AND WATCHED STAR WARS BUT I WOULDN’T ATTEMPT SPACE TRAVEL. SHOW ME CONCLUSIVE PROOF ON NLP ALONE BEING DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE UNDER DOUBLE BLIND STUDIES FOR CURING SERIOUS ILLNESS. AS I’VE SAID IF IT WORKED NOBEL PRIZES FOR MEDICIN WOULD BE NLP’ERS.
Drugs prescribed by the medical profession are ingested and then urinated into our water ways.
ACTUALLY YOU’LL FIND MOST ORAL DRUGS ARE 17ALPHA ALKYLATED WHICH AS YOU WILL KNOW , KNOWING THE BOD AND ALL AS SO CONSTRUCTED TO WORK ON THE SECOND PASS THROUGH THE LIVER AND THUS REMAIN BILGICALLY ACTIVE FOR THE TIME SENSITIVE TO THE DRUGS ACTIVITY AND HALF LIFE. SO THE IDEA WE PISS DRUGS OUT IS NONSENSE. ALSO ALL URINE IS FULL OF WASTE PRODUCTS BUT DRINKING WATER IS STERILE - THATS ACCORDING TO THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION AND FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.
Who drinks the water? Everyone, so we are all affected by these drugs unless we drink reverse osmosis filtered water.
REALLY? EVIDENCE PLEASE ON THIS. FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE. YOU DO MORE DAMAGE NOT DRINKING WATER THAN DRINKING IT. GIVE A DEPLETED CHILD TAP WATER THEY WILL GET BETTER. FACT.
These drugs have affected not only humans but also the balance of the eco system along with other pollutants that get dumped into our water ways.
PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT DRUGS, IN WHAT DOSAGES, EXACTLY HOW THEY AFFECT US, THE EXACT SIDE EFFECTS AND AGAIN DOUBLE BLIND STUDIES THAT PROVE THIS. I GUARANTEE YOU WON’T.
Drugs only mask the symptom and act as a band-aid rather than actually curing the ailment. The body heals itself if the mind is willing.
DRUGS MASK THE SYMPTOM. ERM BIRTH CONTROL PILLS MASK THE SYMPTOMS? BETA 2-AGONISTS DON’T TREAT ASTHMATICDS AND ENABLE THEM TO LIVE? INSULIN DOESN’T HELP THE PANCREAS AND STOP THE USER GOING INTO A HYPO COMA? HGH DOESN’T ENABLE DWARVES TO REACH AN ADULT HEIGHT? CATAPRES DOESN’T LOWER BLOOD PRESSURE? DICLOFENAC SODIUM DOESN’T OFFE CHRONIC CHEST PAIN SUFFRERS RESPITE?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW!
The rate of infertility is growing as with cancer, and I believe it is due to hormone imbalance and lack of good nutritional habits.
PROVE THE RATE OF INFERTILITY IS GROWING. COMPARED TO WHICH FIGURES? THE WORLD IS INCREASINGLY POPULATED. SO THE INFERTILITY DOESN’T APPEAR TO BE SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE.
CANCER TREATMENT IS NOW MORE EFFECTIVE THAN EVER. TAKE BREAST CANCER- FIRST TAMOXIFEN NOW ANASTROZOLE - DEFINITELY CURED MUCH MORE CANCER THAN 40 YEARS AGO. UNLESS YOU HAVE EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY. WHICH YOU DON’T.
‘HORMONE IMBALACE’? PLEASE EXPLAIN WITH SPECIFICS.
I have a voice and want to reach as many people possible not to brainwash them, rather to give them something to think about and something that they can use for themselves if they wish. I have a long way to go and this is a great platform to discuss these issues.
FAIR ENOUGH
BUT ONE THING I MUST TAKE ISSUE WITH IS THE BODY HEALS ITSELF IF THE MIND IS WILLING
TLL THAT TO THE MALNOURISHED CHILD WHO WILL DIE OF STARVATION- ALL THE NLP IN THE WORLD WO’T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, TAP WATER AND FOOD WOULD
TELL IT TO THE MAN WITH TERMINAL CANCER
TELL IT TO THE MAN WHO IS BLIND
TELL IT TO THE WOMAN WHO HAS NO WOMB AND WANTS TO GIVE BIRTH
TELL IT TO THE PERSON WITH NO LIMBS WHO WOULD LOVE TO GAIN LEGS AND ARMS THROUGH THE POWER OF NLP
ALL EXAMPLES OF WHY THIS NONSENSE IS SO DANGEROUS IN MY OPINION.
ONE THING I NOTICE WITH NEW AGE NONSENSE IS PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT ASNWER LITTLE BITS OF QUESTIONS BUT SKIRT OVER THE ONES THEY CANNOT ANSWER. WHY? BECAUSE ITS B.S.
IN THE REFLEXOLOGY POST I ASKED MANY QUESTONS- GOT ABOUT 5% ANSWERED. ON THIS THE SAME.
I WONDER WHY…………..
And curing a phobia is simple
its the power of suggestion and auto-suggestion
NOT NEURO LINGUISTI PROGRAMMING
LOL I thought you were SHOUTING at me with those caps!!
You know Gary, I acknowledge you for taking such a stand and wanting to keep this going so I will do my best to keep up with you.
Granted, a Dip of Health Sc. may be kindergarten compared to the study a medical doctor has to go through but still years of study and thousands of dollars to do.
As for THE ROLE OF DE-COUPLING AGENTS REGARDING INCREASED THERMOGENESIS… I have no clue. Even searching for the explanation didn’t give me an answer that I could translate into my own words.
I would love to attempt Space Travel… it’s one of my way off dreams.
No evidence that would convince you is available for NLP alone being responsible for curing illness.
If drugs were not passed out in urine, howcome they take urine samples of suspected athletes for the Olympics and other sports to detect for drug substances? Granted it depends on indvidual metabolism rates and how long a drug has been taken for in order for it to show up, but doesn’t this mean that it is passed in urine?
If you would like to drink tap water, then go right ahead. I will stick to filtered water. I read the report from WHO in the safety of drinking water and there are still toxins and micro-organisms in the water which can potentially cause schistosomiasis and malaria. The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that 200 million people are infected and 120 million display symptoms. Another 600 million people are at risk of infection. Schistosomes are prevalent in rural and outlying city areas of 74 countries in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. In Central China and Egypt, the disease poses a major health risk.
That’s not counting the chemical toxins that are also found in water… and by the way… where did I say not to drink ANY water? Of course water is needed by the body to survive. It’s the source of the water I was referring to.
Drugs masking symptoms… by this I mean that, for example, when taking paracetamol for a headache, it only masks the symptom of the headache, it doesn’t actually take the headache away. There are some people that can take tablets every 4 hours or however they are prescribed and still no relief from the headache.
The birth control pill taken daily which contains hormones to change the way the body works and prevent pregnancy. Hormones are chemical substances that control the functioning of the body’s organs. In this case, the hormones in the Pill control the ovaries and the uterus. In other words, this pill tricks the body into not falling pregnant because of the chemical hormones it possesses. My personal view of this is outrageous. I was recently told by a GP that I needed some extra form of progestorone and of course, she suggested a synthetically produced solution. I declined and found a “natural” substitute which contains Wild Yam and Chaste tree berries which has helped immensely.
Despite the population of the world, infertility is ever increasing and it also contributes to physical, mental and financial trauma for those couples wanting to have babyies.
http://www.yourfuturehealth.com/resources_statistics.htm#infertility
This site will give you statistics and here is just one to show it’s increase:
In 1938, 0.5% of males were functionally sterile vs. 8% to 12% today
This clearly states that figures are increasing.
Gary, is it okay with you if I email you other references as if I put more than one link here, it will go to spam, also, I have other documents and recordings etc that I can put together for you if you want to go into the specifics of hormone imbalances and the effects it has on the body.
NLP may seem like BS to you and that’s quite alright… it is not for me to bully you into believing it works… as I said, it’s for those who want to achieve certain outcomes and be helped along the way to assist them in changing the way they think in order to reach that outcome. There have been occasions where my Italian blood has almost got to boiling point and wanted to keep going with trying to convince you, however, it is not my place to convince you. This is something you must work out for yourself if you so care to.
Tell me if I have left anything out as it is really difficult to read and answer such long posts in this comments section.
just a quickie- I think we need a new thread for this
BUT
re- drug testing
trace metabolites of substances are found in athletes urine
however this merely shows a presence NOT anything in ay shape way or form biologically active at all.
by the same logic as people who have used lsd have passed water we should all be tripping. only we aren’t because you can’t pass drugs to other people in a biologically active amount through urine.
the infertility stat is erroneous as you are taking a stat and fitting it into your point. first off fetility is now measure globally- I am certain it wasn’t in the 30’s. so realistcally in the 30’s it was measured in terms of what was considered the ‘developed’ world. now t spreads much further. so as the sample size grows MASSIVELY the results will alter.
correct?